Safe and Sound Protocol Podcast Interview with Kim

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Episode 9 - Kim Barthel- Relationships matter in developing resilience. "The only person you can change is yourself" practice self care as a way to help others.

In this interview, Kim shares her knowledge of the brain-body connection in helping people with trauma. That, when we are in a defensive state the access to our cortex, the “thinking” brain for self-talk, reasoning and listening, is inhibited or offline impacting impulsive or reactive responses but also impacting the ability to learn. Something many kids may be struggling with right now with schooling shifting to online platforms. 

Helping loved ones, friends, clients and our society overall, starts with working on ourselves. Porges speaks about Neuroception, the subconscious cues of safety we send and receive. The micro-movements in body language, facial gesture and vocal inflection all indicate what state our nervous system is in…..parasympathetic-calm or sympathetic- activated. Each Nervous system impacts each other. Kim explains that creating change starts with ourselves.
Please listen for more about"

  • Cues of Safety- Safety as "Body felt"

  • Relationships and resilience

  • Healing by giving

  • SSP as a body approach

  • Steps in healing

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Hilary LeRoy-Gauthier